Forrest Hollingsworth: Rob, weāre gathered here today to celebrate the lives and numerous deaths in TKOās newest horror anthology, TKO Presents: Tales of Terror, which collects all of their previously released horror shorts.
First, though, I want to know how you feel about framing narratives for anthologies. Thereās a storied history for them in horror, going back at least to the early days of Tales From The Crypt and staying true to form as recently as the celebrated V/H/S94. I understand the idea in theory, introducing a narrative or thematic thread that will tie everything together, but sometimes it seems like more effort than itās worth — too much posturing before the content. What do you think?
Robert Secundus: Iāve been thinking about this alot in the wake of discussion of V/H/S 94. I think where Iām at right now is I really love the idea too, but too often itās bogged down by the weird need to explain the anthology. Instead of some justification for shorts, Iād like something that sets the mood; something that gives thematic rather than narrative context. Better to not have it than to have a bad one.
Forrest: Well bud, regardless of our feelings about them, I just looked around the Google Doc and…weāre in one right now. Iām thinking, and roll with me on this, that weāre two comic book reviewers for a site called āComicsXFā (We can workshop this, maybe riff on a recognizable X-Men name or something?) and weāre going to offer a quick paragraph or two about these stories. A real āthumbs guyā from Gladiator situation.
You in?
Rob: I am! That sounds good for the segments, but how do we feel about theme? Maybe weāre comedic horror host reviewers.
Forrest: Oooh, letās be the worldās first true crime comics reviewers and podcasters. Weāll review books on the downtime between the good stuff. The world is looking for this niche! The market demands it! SEO!
Rob: Or maybe weāre in a grim and gritty world, or maybeā oh no! Iām too late! The segments are beginning! Thereās no ti–
Seeds of Eden
Written by Liana Kangas and Joe Corallo, art by Paul Azaceta, letters by Jeff Powell
Rob: This was an extremely compelling opening in that itās very unexpected; Azacetaās vibrant colors, his beautiful scenes are not typical horror-anthology fare, I think, nor are far future social commentary/ scifi horror.
Forrest: Thank God the Biden Administration is announcing an AI bill of rights so this never happens…right? Anyways, Iām a little less impressed with this one. Narratively, the utopian idealism becoming dystopian reality is a compelling hook, but I donāt find much of a connection to any of the characters, living or dead and so any worthwhile commentary just becomes too abstracted to matter. Azaceta brings a nice 2001-reminiscent flair to the visuals, and the sprinklers raining blood is a fantastic set piece, but I was looking for something more.
The Father of All Things
Written by Sebastian Girner, art by Baldemar Rivas, letters by Steve Wands
Forrest: Thereās something…sinister about this one. The muted beige and blues giving away to that fiery red, the long stretches of the trenches already dug in just the first year of WWI, the weariness under the eyes of the protagonist. Girner and Rivas do a lot of storytelling in a short time with an exacting, but not overbearing precision. The labyrinthine trenches become a metaphor for the impossible shape and extent of the war efforts, the sight of trauma becomes an eye gouging affair, the final panel with so much of the graveyard just a haunting exercise in negative space. Sure, itās a āwar is Hellā story, but itās a honed one. And, oh, how I love a good title drop.
Rob: I also just have a fondness for World War I fiction and World War I horror. David Jones is one of my favorite poets, and what his work always does is invest his war experiences with cosmic levels of importance. I think you canāt understand modernity, and you canāt understand our current situation, without understanding The Great War. And I think cthonic horror is always a great avenue into that understanding.
Night Train
Written by Steve Foxe, art by Lisandro Estherren, colors by Patricio Delpeche, letters by Steve Wands
Rob: This was my favorite of the collection, in large part because I think itās the one story above all the others that could only workā or works bestā in this medium in this format, a comic short story. Itās beautiful, surreal; it feels like a dream, and one that canāt be extended. It leaves us wondering after the night train, imagining what it might be, but if we had been given another single panel, if we had been given even a glimpse of explanation or extension, I think it would end the dream, wake us up.Thereās something here thatās really natural too, or archetypal, though I never would have thought of it, the train as a dreamlike or surreal thing, the whistle in the distance in the dark.
Forrest: I would push back on that and say this kind of illogical series of events, a subtle swaying of things over time, has worked very well in stuff like Hereditary, but I ultimately agree that the execution here is something special. Foxe, in tandem with his frequent coworker, James Tynion IVās work on Department of Truth, has a way of making things seem impossibly, incomprehensibly large, as if our protagonistās role is just one small piece of a much bigger image. The time and narrative jumps lend themselves to that feeling of helplessness in a concise way, and the suggestion that the train is functioning exactly how itās supposed to, on rails, is terrifying. Estherren and Delpeche do a good job of underlining that dreamlike state, the fuzziness around the edges of the skyline like the bit of spray paint left on a stencil — a hole punched out of things. I wouldnāt ever want to see a follow up to this, but I liked it.
Roofstompers
Written by Alex Paknadel, art by Ian MacEwan, letters by Hassan Otsmane-Elhaou
Forrest: This is one of the most immediately striking of the stories here, but itās also too difficult to parse. MacEwan, one of my favorite artists working today, impresses a degree of feverishness with the densely detailed chicken scratch shading, the impossible structure of the cabin, and the tremendously varied panel design — I love the two page interplay where the exterior goes from a natural, muted green and blue to the surreal, bright rainbow, those bright colors still imparting a sense of āwrongness.ā Unfortunately, Otsmane-Elhaou takes the influence too far and the lettering is, to my eyes, almost inaccessible. Paknadelās story is fine, I kind of admire itās reminiscence to cult classic horror movie Skeleton Key, actually, but itās a little too underwhelming and confusing to warrant how hard you have to work to read it.
Rob: I honestly thought there might be something wrong with our review copy file; I really enjoy Ostmane-Elhaouās experiments with lettering normally, but this time, even though Iām really fond of the idea, I agree it does make more difficult an already opaque story. The individual elements of this story I really enjoy, at least in the abstract. I think if it had the space to breatheā not even to explain things, just to give us more time to sit with this very complex narrativeā it would be a delight. Of all the stories in this collection, this was by far the one I most wanted to see attempted in the standard TKO book format.
River of Sin
Writing and art by Kelly Williams, letters by Chas! Pangburn
Forrest: Williamsā knack for grounding fable in grim realism really works for me.The monochromatic imagery in the opening segments, exaggerated fantasy, giving way to the more natural colors of the setting and the cast and then back again to the stark black and orange in the final moments feels contained, intentional, and narratively and visually resonant. Itās a simple story, but the characterization is groan inducingly spot on, and leaving on a note of appropriate retribution really serves as a good āpalate cleanserā of a kind given the company of the other stories here.
Rob: That opening shot of the vulture had immense EC horror vibes to me, and the morality play that followed felt like something youād see in any of the old-school horror tv or comic anthologies.
Dame From The Dark
Written by Rob Pilkington, art by Kit Mills, letters by Ariana Maher
Rob: Of all the stories in this collection, this one feels the least like one designed as a short; it feels like a pilot, setting up not just one mystery and one conflict for our odd detectives to solve in these pages, but what feels like a seasonal or series-long arc. Mind you, it seems like a pilot to a series Iād enjoyā but while reading I couldnāt help but keep thinking of the story as a pitch.
Forrest: I have to agree. We talked about the framing narrative above, and this almost feels like one? The āTKO Studios Presents a Dame from the Dark Taleā thing included would work better as a means to introduce the other stories and mysteries here, but as a stand alone thing I canāt say I found it too compelling — does ACAB include weird spiritual buddy cop stories? The dramatic distance between the sillier art and the intensely scary bits (I was not expecting that hard turn into a blood drenched cult scene, and Iām not sure it was warranted) only further underlines the disparity between what the story imagines it is, and what it is in effect.
The Walk
Written by Michael Moreci, art by Jesus Hervas, letters by Hassan Otsmane-Elhaou
Forrest: I hate to make the comparison just because of proximity, but this is a more effective take on what Seeds of Eden was doing. Even if the narration is a little repetitive, the mix of social and environmental commentary with horror is significantly more pointed, and the abstract of the monster fits the themes better. Hervas delivers some of my favorite art of the collection with the negative-space-defying flashlights mounted on the deep sea suits, and the totality of the darkness encroaching on them plays into the themes of invasiveness and Lovecraftian order exceptionally well. Really enjoyed this one.
Rob: The ocean really terrifies me, and so this got me too. I love the horrifying little flashes of light that appear sometimes on the suits, signifying something deeply wrong. This didnāt really feel new to me, but Iām not sure thatās a bad thing hereā novelty of premise is not always valuable over excellence of execution.
Killiamsburg
Written by Erick C. Freitas, art by Jelena Dordevic-Maksimovic, letters by Steve Wands
Forrest: Okay, Iām tackling this one first because I have to say āPlease imagine your favorite Bon Jovi song playing in the backgroundā is hysterical. Rob, what did you pick? Iām going, of course, with the Deadliest Catch theme, āDead or Aliveā.
Rob: I could not help but hear āSHOT THROUGH THE HEARTā AND YOUāRE TO BLAMEā DARLING YOU GIVE LOVEā A BAD NAMEā [guitar noises].ā
Forrest: Rock on. Unfortunately, with that out of the way I have to say that this is easily my least favorite story here. The title being a weak play on hipster haven Williamsburg sets the tone for the whole thing in a way it never really recovers from. The jokes are obvious down to every single drop of the craft beer, the pacing is stilted, the visuals equally so. Itās going for this Syfy channel inspired B-movie thing but its insistence on backing off of the satire to set up a team-up story (of what? Terrible people?) at the end completely undersells the last ounce of bite it had. Not for me.
Rob: The idea of a fungal plague snowman zombie apocalypse appeals to me a lot, and there are clever ideas, like the use of horrible beer as an anti-fungalā but it mostly falls flat for me too. I prefer my satire grotesque and weighty, not light and frivolous. If the aim is social commentary, I donāt think it has much to say, and if the aim is just slapstick fun, I think too much distracts from that. I recognize all of that may be a matter of taste; so Iāll say that ultimately itās just not for me either.
Hand Me Down
Written by Alex Paknadel, art by Jen Hickman, letters by Simon Bowland
Rob: I found this an absolutely delightful conclusion. Cults in the new wealthy neighborhood,, marital problems and possession narratives, these are all familiar, but the lighthearted twist brought the story to a conclusion that felt, above all else, fun. I ended the collection with a smile on my face.
Forrest: Iām glad that Paknadel got to do two of these if only to show off his sheer range. This is an entirely different beast from Roofstompers, and one that I also liked quite a bit. Youāve got that playful satire of the suburban elite, the weird Exorcist flair (Hickmanās art is fun), nothing bad happens to the kid, etc. Iāll echo your thoughts that, organizationally speaking, this or Williamsā story would be the best to end on and Iām certainly not mad at it!
And with that said…it looks like we made it, Rob. We read the stories, we thought the thoughts, and we wrote the paragraphs. How do you feel?
Rob: itās over? Weāre back? I thought weād never escape.
Forrest: Letās get out of — wait, did either of us edit this? Oh no…
Rob: oh no, thatās the theme! Weāve fallen due to our own hubris! Lost in an unedited document, the void of a word processor, chased forever by clippy and grammarly and SEO plug-ins, and, and, andā