Obi-Wan confronts Vader, Reva makes a choice, and the toys get put back in the toybox in Obi-Wan Kenobi, Part 6!
Austin Gorton: Welcome back to a galaxy far, far away Mark! Youāve made it just in time for the series (?) finale of Obi-Wan. How were you feeling about the series heading into this finale, and has the wrap-up generally changed those feelings at all?
Mark Turetsky: Look, Iām one of the Star Trek guys around here. So when you put up the Bat-Signal for this final episode, I had to Answer The Call and declare, āand my axe.ā For me, the series has been, more or less, fine. I came into this finale with the conclusion that all of the toys will go back into their boxes, because they kind of have to (although I did come up with an alternate ending in our Slack, where young Luke dies and the two Landos come through a portal and then Quantum Leap out to fix the timeline. Call me, Disney+! I have availability!)
Austin: Thereās very much a āputting the toys back in the boxā vibe to this episode, particularly towards the end, but thatās not terribly surprising nor unexpected. I do think the series went out on a high note after a couple of less-robust episodes, in part because by this point, it was clear what the series was intended to be, which made it easier to just sit back and enjoy what was there.
Obi-Wan vs. Darth Vader, Round 2
Austin: One of the big questions going into this series was how big a role Darth Vader would play in it, and once the early episodes made it clear the answer was āa fairly significant one, actuallyā and gave us an Obi-Wan/Darth Vader duel in which Vader absolutely dominated his old master, you had to know the series would close out with a rematch (especially since the thematic arc of Part 4 and Part 5 was really all about Obi-Wan getting his Jedi mojo back). How did this duel hit you, and are you concerned itās taking anything away from their more momentous (but less technically dazzling) showdown on the Death Star?
Mark: I enjoyed it for what it was. Itās a very well done fight, and I think it actually adds something to their confrontation in Star Wars. I remember when the prequels were just coming out, and we had these absolutely dazzling lightsaber duels, and there were questions among fans of, āwell, if the Jedi could do that, why were the fights in the original trilogy not that?ā And the answer, of course, is Alec Guinness and a constrictive suit that didnāt allow David Prowse to see much, obviously. But if we take in what we see happening here in this final episode: Obi-Wan absolutely trouncing Vader and leaving him severely injured again, it means that when they face off on the Death Star, Vader is chastened. Heās terrified of Obi-Wan, because this is the guy thatās wrecked him twice.
Austin: Iām not one of those fans who would flip over my desk and yell at people on the internet if it didnāt neatly all lineup, but it was fun to see this duel play out in a way that still more or less preserves Darthās line in A New Hope about having been the learner when last they met; thereās very much a sense here that, as you say, Obi-Wan schooled Vader, and itās believable that he would still think of their relationship in Master/Apprentice terms after this fight.
The other thing I really liked here in terms of tweaking existing lore is the way Vader first makes the argument that Anakin Skywalker is dead; this is more or less Obi-Wanās mantra throughout the Original Trilogy, his way of justifying the fact that he exists to train his best friendās son to kill his best friend, and then to (try to) convince Luke to keep on his āVader killingā mission even after Luke learns Vader is his dad. Having it be a mindset that Vader adopted, and more or less gave to Obi-Wan, is both a fun (albeit minor) twist, and another indication of just how sadly things ended for Anakin.
Mark: Throughout that post-fight exchange, I kept mentally adding āfrom a certain point of viewā to the end of each line of dialogue. āYou didnāt kill Anakin Skywalker. I did [from a certain point of view].ā āThen my friend is truly dead [from a certain point of view].ā
One thing Iād really like to comment on is the Hayden Christensen of it all. I think itās great that heās back, that heās been able to return to this role. But thereās something going on here that I think weāve been misled about. When Part II ended and the credits said that James Earl Jones was voicing Vader, it gave me pause. I know thereās been a lot of speculation about his voice being digitally synthesized, in the same way that Mark Hammillās voice was in The Book of Boba Fett. I donāt think thatās precisely whatās going on here. Speaking as someone who does vocal performance professionally, and whoās spent a few years in an acting conservatory studying speech, Iām pretty sure this is Hayden Christensen delivering all of Vaderās dialogue, and that performance is being altered through an AI.
Jones, in all of his performances, has a very distinct, very precise way of speaking, and I donāt just mean the timbre of his voice. There are certain ways that Vader pronounces words in this series, like āevadeā in this episode, that donāt match my image of how Jones speaks, but definitely match Christensenās speech patterns. I think the half-mask scene really gives us a peek behind that curtain, because we see Christensen speaking and we hear something thatās halfway between the two actors that is emphatically not two voices speaking in unison.
Now, is this to say that this is necessarily a bad thing? No. Not necessarily. If theyāve gotten Jonesā permission to use his voice in this way, itās a very effective way to show this transitional version of Vader. But also understand that I work in an industry where there are literally producers telling authors that they can make an audiobook out of someoneās voice samples for a small fraction of what they would pay that person to record the entire book. At this point, these AI-generated books sound like an extremely bland reading of the work, but theyāre going to get better.
Austin: Between this and the various Luke/Mark Hammil deep fakes, it really does seem like Star Wars has placed itself at the center of the ongoing discussion about ethics and certain uses of certain technologies in modern filmmaking.
Speaking (some more) of the Hayden Christensen of it all, weād commented in these reviews a few times about how much Hayden was bringing to the table by just walking around in the Vader suit and popping up as a silent vision. The flashback last episode was an effective way to give him more to do in a way that showed it was him doing it, and the sequence in this episode when Obi-Wan slashed away his mask to reveal half of Anakinās face really sealed the deal. This was a trick Rebels pulled as well, when Ahsoka fights Vader, but having Hayden looking out from the mask made a difference. Being able to look into the eyes (eye) of Anakin himself as he declared his own death and to see the Vader/Anakin conflict rendered visually was affecting. It wasnāt subtle, for sure, but Star Wars rarely is, and having Hayden there for that made all the difference.
Mark: Agreed. It lets Obi-Wan have this very emotional moment. But, uh, Benā¦? This isnāt just about you. Youāve got Darth Vader on the ropes, youāve gotta finish the job.
Austin: Iāll acknowledge this is getting into nitpick territory, but I really wish Obi-Wanās vision of Luke being in danger had occurred when he had Vader at his mercy, because it would have justified him leaving Vader on the spot instead of finishing him off. As it is, he just walks away (yes, yes, heās sad his friend is deadā¦from a certain point of view) and now, everything Vader does from this point forward is at least partially on Obi-Wan, and he lets him live for no real good reason. We know Vaderās not going to die here, but the series needs to give an in-universe explanation for that stronger than ābecause Obi-Wan was sadā. Plus, giving him the vision at that moment would have helped shore up one of the episodeās weaker elements.
Mark: Orā¦ and weāll discuss this in a moment, having Qui-Gonās Force ghost intercede for some reason. Weāll talk about it later on, but they were seeding Qui-Gon throughout the series, why not have it happen here? Have him spout some Jedi bullshit about not giving in to hate, or that Vader still has a role to play.
Revaās Journey
Austin: The portion of the episode that worked less effectively for me was the Reva material. I think Reva is the stealth MVP of the show, and I get that the episode wanted to do the back-and-forth cuts (which is a nod to Return of the Jediās climax while also helping amp up the tension in both sequences), but it was never terribly clear to me WHY Reva was targeting Luke. To get revenge on Vader by killing the son he doesnāt know he has (did Reva even KNOW he is Anakinās son?)? To get revenge on Obi-Wan for mucking up her own long term plans against Vader? Some kind of weird Inquisitor brainwashing kicking in? Did you get a better read on any of this?
Mark: Nope! Letās look at the hints she has about who Luke is: itās a message from Bail Organa. Thereās another kid whoās about the same age as Leia, who was important enough for Kenobi to come out of hiding to protect. However, I donāt think she has any idea that Ben was on Tatooine at all, correct? So itās not like she could put together that he was there to protect Luke. It seems logical to put together that Luke and Leia are connected, and somehow important, but it seems like a huge leap to put together that theyāre Anakinās kids. Still, thatās the motive that makes the most sense to me: Anakin killed off a bunch of kids, her friends, so revenge dictates she kill off his kids, I guess. But it was remarkably unclear. Vader clearly doesnāt know these are his kids, so whatās her plan? Kill off Luke and then send a taunting message to Vader? Itās unclear enough that I wasnāt even sure she was even going to attempt to kill Luke at all until she started attacking the Lars homestead.
Austin: And I dunno, maybe the idea was supposed to be she WASNāT going to attack/kill, but Owen and Beru (wisely) assumed the worst, and then she was just defending herself, and then her Inquisitor anger took over, or something? But Iām not sure what the point of all that would be. And she did enter their home with her lightsaber ignited, soā¦
In the end, she canāt bring herself to kill Luke, and we end up with another repentant Star Wars villain who did some monstrous things but has seen the error of their ways. Though at least this time, unlike with Vader and Kylo Ren, Reva is still alive to actually try and make amends beyond saving the life of someone sheās inclined to like already.
Mark: Yes, thatās something Iām particularly happy about! Redemption in Star Wars is something you do right before you die. Itās a serious problem with this franchise. Iāve thought throughout that Reva has been the best thing about this show. I think Moses Ingram has done extraordinary work with this character. This being of anger and hate that the Inquisitors have molded her into, coming face to face with the trauma that she endured and survived and choosing to break free of that cycle. Itās good stuff, her unclear motivations in this particular episode aside. I am so glad that we get something new out of this series. We know how things are going to end with Obi-Wan, Vader, Luke, Beru, Lars. If they had killed off Reva, then Iād say the entire enterprise would have been, on the whole, pointless. But they have an amazing opportunity here: a compelling character, an extraordinary performer. I hope they donāt fuck it up.
Austin: 100% agree. I would love to see Reva show up in Andor. Or her own show. Or wherever. Kudos to the creative team for not killing her off right as she came around; now letās hope LucasFilms knows what to do with the character.
Mark: Iāve seen rumors that sheās got her own show ready to go, but this is Star Wars. Thereās an entire industry built around fabricating rumors about things people hope are true.
Austin: Rebellions Clicks are built on hope.
Chekhovās Ghosts
Austin: With Vader defeated, Anakin ādeadā, Luke safe, and Obi-Wan at least a little bit more put back together, all thatās left is some wrap-up and the payoff to a series-long tease. It is, at long last, Force Ghost Qui-Gon time!
Mark: Heās there to congratulate Obi-Wan on the successful completion of his emotional journey. It was kinda fun to see Liam Neeson in a Star War again, but beyond thatā¦ I found it kinda meh. Itās like a disappointing final cut scene for a reasonably enjoyable game, but not much more.
Austin: Agreed. We knew it had to be coming, and I guess in that regard, they succeeded in sticking the landing. But I think the idea of using his appearance to put an exclamation point on Obi-Wanās character arc for the series read a lot better on paper than it did in execution. Even just a longer conversation between them a la Ben and Luke in Return of the Jedi would have felt more rewarding/justifiable.
Mark: My personal prediction was that he wasnāt appearing for Obi-Wan because heās been appearing to Vader this whole time, trying to get through to him (after all, he first appeared as a Force ghost to Anakin in Attack of the Clones, trying to prevent him from slaughtering a group of Tuskens). But I canāt be disappointed that my personal theory wasnāt correct.
Austin: I do love the idea of Vader being constantly tormented by Qui-Gonās ghost. And we donāt know that he wasnāt ALSO busy doing that the whole time.
Heās not dead, but we also get a Force Ghost-esque appearance from the Emperor, telling Vader to get over the whole Obi-Wan thing already. It was a fun surprise to see Ian McDiarmid again, but it felt even more perfunctory than the Qui-Gon appearance, just a little bit of business to smooth the transition from Vaderās mental state in this series to the fact that heās not still frothing at the mouth to find Obi-Wan during A New Hope.
Mark: I like it mostly because he seems like the awful boss version of the character we saw in Gillen and Larrocaās Darth Vader comic. We also get Obi-Wan seemingly packing up and leaving Tatooine with no intention of coming back, as well as a brief reunion with Leia. Does this tie in with his appearances on Rebels? I know he was on that show, but I havenāt watched it.
Austin: No, his Rebels appearance occurs closer in the timeline to A New Hope, and heās animated very much in the Alec Guiness style at that time. I read this less as Obi-Wan leaving Tatooine, and more him moving to the house heās in when he takes Luke home in A New Hope (basically, now that heās processed his grief and doesnāt feel as guilty, heāll allow himself to live in an actual home and not just an open-roofed cave). But a lot of that will depend on whether or not we get another season or more of this show; if we do, Obi-Wan may well turn up somewhere else (helping the Path, perhaps) before returning to Tatooine for some reason. If notā¦then I guess heās off to settle in his new home here.
We do get one final poignant moment, as Uncle Owen, softened by Obi-Wan admitting heās less gung-ho to train Luke at the moment, allows him to meet the boy, and he finally says the thing weāve been waiting all series for him to say.
Mark: Itās like heās been monitoring the memes. Itās cute that he gives him the model ship that Luke plays with in Star Wars, maybe planting a seed for Lukeās love of and skill at flying. Itās a cute moment, and it serves to show a transition between Obi-Wan the guardian and Ben, the friendly old wizard who lives out in the Jundland Wastes.
Austin: It worked on me. What can I say? Sometimes, Iām an easy mark.
Force Facts
- If nothing else, this series gave us Exasperated Parent Obi-Wan, and thatās not nothing.
- Like Reva, Obi-Wanās advice to Roken to keep leading seems like a hint that maybe heāll return in something like Andor as a leader in the burgeoning Rebel Alliance. It also wouldnāt be surprising to see Haja turn up somewhere else at some point as well.
- This is more in nitpick territory again, but Vader having to choose between pursuing the Path or Obi-Wan seems like a false choice given heās flying in a ship filled with other ships, something that is pointed out mere moments later, when he flies away from the big ship in another little ship to follow Obi-Wan down to the planet.
- When Vader chucked Obi-Wan into the crevasse he made, just before burying him in a Force avalanche, I was waiting for a āwhoās got the high ground NOWā comment.
- Love how Star Wars keeps proving Last Jedi Luke wrong about how using the Force isnāt about lifting rocks.
- Interestingly enough given the whole ethos of the Prequel Era Jedi, it is Obi-Wanās attachment to Luke and (especially) Leia that gives him the strength to lift the rocks off himself and turn the tide against Vader.
- Nice that they gave Bonnie Piesse a little more to do as Beru in this episode (after bringing her back for āPart 1ā just to stand in the background of a shot viewed through Obi-Wanās binoculars). Her fierceness and level headedness under pressure was particularly fun to see.
- The conversation between Leia and Obi-Wan after sheās made it back to Alderaan seemed like a way to smooth over any concerns about the depiction of their relationship in A New Hope, basically saying āweāre going to act like we donāt know each other any time someone could be watchingā as a way to explain why she is so formal in asking him for help in Artooās message if theyāre old friends who went on this adventure together.
- Post-adventure Obi-Wanās attire is very similar to his comic book attire from around that time.
- More Return of the Jedi nods in this one: the crux of the plot involves Obi-Wan having to face Vader just as Luke did (with each essentially proclaiming/reaffirming their status as Jedi after doing so and ā pointedly ā not killing Vader), and Reva chooses not to give in to hate and kill the defenseless Luke just as Luke spared a defenseless Vader. Oh, and they both involve return trips to Tatooine.