Spinning out of Absolute Carnage, which, itself, was spun out of Venom, Frank Tieri, Angel Unzueta, Guillermo Sanna, and Rachelle Rosenberg bring us a horrific tale about the secrets of Arkham Ravencroft.
Zachary Jenkins: So there are no Dawn of X books this week, however this is this one-shot ostensibly about Sabretooth from aspiring street fighter Frank Tieri. Excited to talk about this one Nola?
Nola Pfau: Absolutely not!
ZJ: Well, we donāt have anything better to do so letās get started.
Itās Stupid
ZJ: The weird thing about this book is that itās a previously unseen story about how Sabretooth and Sinister were experimenting on Wolverine in an asylum back in 1909. It specifically takes place after the forgotten Origins II and is more interested in telling the boring back story of discount Arkham than adding to the mythos of the title character. It jumps between timelines, but neither parallel story is additive. There is no connective tissue save location.
The other weird thing about this book is that it is stupid.
NP: Itās so stupid! (Can I say that, or is Frank Tieri gonna try to fight me in a laundromat or something jk I will absolutely fight Frank Tieri)
It riffs on Arkham so heavily that it was ācursed from the startā or whatever, and has a stupid, misguided doctor demanding that it be built. The doctorās last name is Kasady, you know, like the Carnage host. OoooOOOOOooOOOOOO. The history bits are honestly insufferable to read, just like the history bits about Arkham are. Are people actually interested in this kind of thing? Itās not exciting, itās not new. People experimenting on Wolverine? Also not new! Mr. Sinister being vaguely menacing and manipulative where mutants are involved? Thatās also here, and also been done before!
The modern half of the story is about Mr. Fantastic, Misty Knight, Kingpin and Man-Wolf fighting…demons or monsters, I guess? Theyāre just…there. Thereās no reason why, or anything. Also, I canāt think of Man-Wolf without thinking of Manwich.
ZJ: At least artist Angel Unzueta does some neat monster designs for them to fight. Their art is easily the best part of this, but still, the modern part is very weird to me. Iām an astute enough reader to guess that there is some context from this that Iām missing, but as a stand alone unit of comics, itās complete dreak. What qualifications does former astronaut and part time Man-Wolf, John Jameson have to reopen a mental health facility? Why are Mr. Fantastic and Misty Knight working alongside Kingpin? Having read Frank Tieri comics in the past, Iām willing to assume itās just plain bad writing, but thereās other elements to it that rings real false.
It Sucks
ZJ: The stigmatization of mental health is a pressing issue that impacts countless families. The reestablishment of the Ravencroft Institute for the Criminally Insane is not the step toward healing and rehabilitation that Reed Richards seems to think it will be. It follows a greater trend of treating mental health challenges as something incompatible with regular human existence. The residents are compared to monsters, the doctors treated like some ancient evil. Itās the nuance and excution Iād expect from the guy who microwaved a puppy and made āgay jokesā at The Punisherās expense during his run on Wolverine.
NP: Yeah, thereās a reason that asylums arenāt a thing in real life anymore, and thatās because they were horrible places with little-to-no oversight. Reed, surely, is smart enough to know this, just like heās smart enough to know that his doctorate isnāt a medical one, so why is he even making this move?
Itās just a poorly executed book. Like you said above, Zack, thereās no connective tissue, thereās nothing tying these supposedly interwoven stories together. As separate chapters, a lead story and a backup, they might have at least had a little more coherence, but that wouldnāt save them from being empty, useless fluff. Theyāre not even clever or funny! Thereās a beat where they bring in a man claiming to be the Black Knight in 1909, and the coloration of his cape and cowl combined with the color of the straight jacket heās in is a clear indication itās meant to be a riff on Batman. HA! Batman! Being admitted to an asylum! HA! HA! RIGHT FOLKS, RIGHT????
ZJ: Iād be remiss if I didnāt mention Guillermo Sannaās art in the flashback sections. And by that I mean itās workman like with very little worth commenting. It doesnāt sell horror, it sells mundane. Rachelle Rosenbergās colors donāt add to the tension, they muddle the proceedings. Itās makes for a frustrating read when mediocre art is paired with bad writing.
I Hate It
ZJ: More than anything else, I hate that this book exists. Itās a stand alone, $5, one-shot, except that itās the second in an ongoing story about Ravencroft. Itās a starring role for Sabretooth except he is nearly a non-factor in this story. If it didnāt say Sabretooth, I would assume it is Wolverine on the cover. Itās about an X-Men character run through the Spider-Man office. Itās the follow-up to an event, that will lead into another mini, that was all birthed from a distinct creative vision by a singular writer and artist. If anything, this book is a symbol of all of Marvelās worst impulses. Taking a unique idea like Stegman & Catesā Venom, and spinning books off until everything is commoditized and that spark of innovation is nothing but a memory. Itās the same way we get solicits where there are four books about Spider-Manās old girlfriends, one about his old job, and one about the girlfriend of a spin-off of a villian who is just evil Spider-Man.
NP: Carnage is not a character that needs mythos or gravitas. He is a homicidal jerk who has been empowered by an alien goo monster. Nothing about that requires depth; heās a bad person! Heās really hard to stop! Heās like Venom, but worse! He doesnāt need an ancestral background and a cursed family asylum. Similarly, Wolverine doesnāt need yet another story where someone is experimenting on him! We get it! HE HAD A ROUGH TIME. This comic couldāve been released in 1991 and it still wouldāve all been done before.
ZJ: I canāt get over how this is pulling all the same high level plot threads as Arkham: A Serious House On A Serious Earth. It isnāt deconstructing them, itās playing them straight! How is this the book you want to put out Marvel? How did this get approved? I swear, you could have just not. No one needed this comic. No one needed this mini-event. This trade will never move off the shelves. This is a waste of everyoneās time and effort.
Do better.
X-Traneous Thoughts
- Guys, there is no Krakoan, no good jokes, nothing.
- Itās stopped being fun ragging on this bad book.
- Just donāt buy it. Please.
- At least the good books are back next week.
In case you don’t get why we are so hard on Frank it is because he is still getting work after telling a comics critic
And by the way, you psuedo intellectual piece of sā, whenever you grow balls big enough to call me an aāā to my face, you let me know. We can do it at a con or in a parking lot but Iām either way, quite sure that you wonāt.
A now deleted Tweet by Tieri
So, yeah, he’s getting very little sympathy for his bad comic from us.
Nola Pfau is Editor-in-Chief of WWAC and generally a bad influence.
Zachary Jenkins runs the Xavier Files Media Empire and is a co-host on the podcast Battle of the Atom. Shocking everyone, he has a full and vibrant life outside of X-Men.